The Animal Wellness Podcast focuses on improving the lives of animals in the United States and abroad through legislation and influencing businesses to create a more humane economy. The show is with Wayne Pacelle, AWA Founder and CHE president and hosted by veteran journalist and animal-advocate Joseph Grove. Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify and Podbean offer subscriptions to the free show.

Kentucky: why Is such a beautiful state so horrible to its animals and children? | Episode 18

Jul 19th, 2020
Until recent laws at last banned human-on-animal sex and gave veterinarians protection to report suspected abuse, Kentucky was 11 years running at the bottom of all states concerning animal welfare. It’s still dead-last when it comes to child welfare. In this episode, host we talk to Kathryn Callahan, the former director for Kentucky for the Humane Society of the US.

What humans can learn from animals with Carl Safina | Episode 17

Jun 15th, 2020
Carl Safina is a pioneer when it comes to understanding the hidden — and instructive — lives of animals. In this interview about his latest book, “Becoming Wild: How Animal Cultures Raise Families, Create Beauty, and Achieve Peace,” he talks about what we can learn about being human from chimpanzees, parrots, pigeons and whales, much of it relevant to today’s headlines.

The bloodbath of killing contests | Episode 16

Jun 3rd, 2020
Growing attention to wildlife killing contests has resulted in six states implementing bans against a bloodbath legitimate hunters, environmentalists and animal-activists alike find appalling. Guests Camilla Fox, from Project Coyote and producer/director of the documentary “Killing Games: Wildlife in the Crosshairs” talks about what is being done to outlaw them in the remaining 44 states.

COVID-19, the shortage of meat and animal husbandry | Episode 15

May 20th, 2020
While Americans are struggling to keep beef, poultry and pork in their refrigerators, exports of those products to China have quadrupled, and hundreds of thousands of animals are being killed and wasted on factory farms. We learn from cattleman Will Harris of White Oak Pastures how severely our current system is broken and why it's so bad for people and the animals we take to eat.

Priscilla Presley on horses, Elvis and animal advocacy | Episode 14

May 2nd, 2020 
In this special Derby Day edition, we update and share our 2018 interview with Priscilla Presley. She and the King shared a love of horses, and it was through their beloved Tennessee Walker they were first exposed to the world of soaring. She was horrified by the cruel training tactics and has spent much of her life fighting for the well-being of animals of all kinds.

How one small team took down greyhound racing | Episode 13

Apr 28th, 2020
GREY2K USA is a husband-and-wife advocacy team that grew through time, smarts and a lot of help to reduce the number of dog-racing tracks in the U.S. from 50 or more to now just four. This is the story of how they did it and what other animal-welfare groups can learn from their incredible success.

Saving lives – human and animal –with better FDA testing | Episode 12

Apr 22nd, 2020
COVID-19 has exposed that our government's testing requirements for new drugs and vaccines are inefficient and cruel to animals and deadly to humans. Guest Tami Drake (Modernize Testing) says that the 90-year-old requirement for in vivo trials is outmoded and we must pivot now to using recent, groundbreaking science that enables better prediction of results by using organs on computer chips. 

Caged hunts and the spread of Chronic Wasting Disease | Episode 11

Apr 6th, 2020
Acclaimed wildlife writer and outdoorsman Ted Williams joins us to talk about caged hunts, where people pay up to five-figures to shoot grotesquely overbred animals in confined areas, all for an interesting story and a display on a wall. Not only do these operations – banned now in 20 states – represent the antithesis of hunting as a "sport," they are contributing to the spread of CWD, a brain-eating disease that is capable of infecting humans.

Pets and the Corona Virus | Episode 10

Mar 19th, 2020
While the pandemic wreaks havoc for humans, our pets are so far immune to it. Dr. Annie Harvilicz, DVM, president of the Animal Wellness Foundation and secretary of Animal Wellness Action, dispels rumors about pet-human/human-pet transmission of the disease and to learn what's being done to help pets when human companions lose their jobs and can't afford a trip to the vet.

The ongoing horrors of trapping | Episode 9

Mar 2nd, 2020
The horrors of sport" trapping are well-documented: Animals chewing off their own appendages to escape. Slow, excruciating deaths. Orphaned younglings.

Brenna Galdenzi – the founder and president of Protect Our Wildlife Vermont, an all-volunteer, grassroots, nonprofit of more than 2,500 members – talks about her efforts to combat the trapping by fighting for tougher laws, the enforcement of existing ones, and education. Wayne Pacelle outlines the victories that have been made in the fight against fur, from the total ban of "sport" trapping in California to the many retailers who have pledged to go fur-free.

Corona Virus and Horse Racing Integrity Act update | Episode 8

Feb 16th, 2020
The coronavirus now making headlines across the world is an example of a disease originating in a non-human animal and ending up in the human-animal population. The zoonotic virus likely crossed the interspecies boundary at a "wet market" in Wuhan, where live exotic animals are sold as delicacies to affluent citizens. The outbreak, says Wayne Pacelle, is yet more evidence that animal welfare is very much related to human welfare – and that we ignore the fact to our imperilment.

Fixing the lethal abuses in horse racing | Episode 7

Jan 28th, 2020
About 1,000 racehorses a year die in contests they never asked to join. Doping and the overuse of therapeutic drugs are largely to blame, along with harmful overbreeding, and about 12% of the horses slaughtered for human consumption are former racehorses. Arthur Hancock III and Staci Handcock, owners of Stone Farm in Kentucky – which has raised countless Thoroughbreds, including three Kentucky Derby winners – talk about two pending pieces of Federal legislation that would help our equine friends but need the support of Churchill Downs and trainers like Bob Baffert to be passed and signed into law.

Checkoffs and the abuse of animals and farmers | Episode 6

Jan 20th, 2020
The government requires most farmers to contribute to funds that are often used against their better interests and lead to the brutal, mechanized treatment of animals. Pending legislation would require more transparency and purity of purpose for the use of what amounts to an $800 million yearly tax on agriculture. Mike Eby, chairman of the National Dairy Producer’s Organization, calls for more humane and sustainable agriculture and the reform of USDA’s checkoff programs.

Fighting America’s wild-horse round-ups | Episode 5

Jan 12th, 2020
Thousands of wild horses each year are rounded up in a terrifying assault of helicopters and relocated to feeder farms. All so ranchers can have cheap access to public lands – your lands – to graze their cattle and then better profit from the beef they sell.

Suzanne Roy, head of American Wild Horse Campaign, talks about this and the needless capitulations some animal groups are making to appease the government, and how the public is being cheated by the practice.

Support for the Big Cat Public Safety Act with Carole Baskin | Episode 4

Dec 30th, 2019
We talk with and special guest Carole Baskin about the need for the Big Cat Public Safety Act. Baskin operates Big Cat Rescue: An Educational Sanctuary in Tampa, Fla., and is an expert on the challenges confronting these coveted creatures when people try to monetize their cubs and keep them as pets.


Michael Vick, cock fighting in the U.S. territories | Episode 3

Dec 13th, 2019
We talk with special guest Ana Maria Hernandez about the renewed attention on convicted dog-fighter and NFL player Michael Vick as well as the December 20, 2019, deadlines for U.S. territories to be in compliance with federal anti-cock-fighting law.

What’s up with those committee chairs? | Episode 2

Dec 4th, 2019
We talk about the key role of committee chairman in expediting or halting the progress of federal animal-welfare legislation. Plus: Lawmakers take aim at shark-finning, and the battle intensifies against Thoroughbred deaths on racetracks.

2019 victories for animals | Episode 1

Nov 23rd, 2019
Wayne Pacelle, founder of Animal Wellness Action, and Marty Irby, the non-profit's executive director and lead lobbyist talk with host Joseph Grove about legislative victories for animals in 2019. They include the PAST Act and the PACT Act.


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